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Multiple Universes are aliens actual divine beings of the Bible

by zagor in

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this is a topic i wanted to have a discussion about for quite some time but didnt know if anyone at all would be interested.

there is quite a buzz in scientific community in last 10 years about real possibility that our universe is only one of say 10 to the power of 500 universes around all in their separate dimensions.

such a notion is truly mind-boggling when you think of what the implications really are.

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I recommend "Alien Encounters" by Chuck Missler and Mark Eastman for an in-depth study on the relationship between "aliens" and the Bible. They are not who you think they are.

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Aliens/UFO's...Do You Believe In Them?

by Legolas in

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after reading another thread it got me thinking...how many here believe in aliens?

have you ever seen a ufo?

There will be a time in the near future when there will be a public disclosure of the alien reality. The Vatican is already getting ready for official disclosure along with world governments. There will eventually be PUBLIC contact made with these entities.

Don't be deceived. These are not entities from outer space somewhere out there. That is what they want you to think. It is designed to destroy the current religious paradigm and establish a new one. They are physical manifestations of fallen angels/sons of God the "B'nai Elohim" mentioned in Genesis 6. The media is being saturated with these topics for a reason, to cultivate the public mind for acceptance of this disclosure and contact event most likely to occur when the world is in mass chaos. Check out some of the new age teachings, see what they teach.

If you think the bible doesn't mention these "aliens", think again:

Genesis 6:1- When men began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them,
2: the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair; and they took to wife such of them as they chose.
3: Then the LORD said, "My spirit shall not abide in man for ever, for he is flesh, but his days shall be a hundred and twenty years."
4: The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

Matt. 24:36: "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
37: As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man.

Matt 24:24: For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

Luke 21:11: there will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.

Daniel 2:41: And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
43: And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Ask yourself, who is "they" that mingle themselves with the seed of men during the last kingdom?

The Bible does mention "aliens". They are not our friends. If you think this is crazy stuff, go ahead flame me. Remember this post when official disclosure happens. Do the research. This is very important.

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Another wrong prophetic start date

by watch the tower in

according to the prophecy in daniel ch.

9, the messiah was to appear exactly 69 weeks after the decree was made to rebuild jerusalem.. historical records show that artaxerxes longanimus made the decree for the jews to rebuild jerusalem in nisan 30 445 bc.

the wt states that that this happened in 455 bc.. they got 607 bc as the date of the destruction of jerusalem wrong and now this one as well.. although this date is not as critical as 607 bc to the wt doctrines, it still shows how they write their own history as they please.

watch the tower

According to the prophecy in Daniel ch. 9, the Messiah was to appear exactly 69 weeks after the decree was made to rebuild Jerusalem.

Historical records show that Artaxerxes Longanimus made the decree for the Jews to rebuild Jerusalem in Nisan 30 445 BC. The WT states that that this happened in 455 BC.

They got 607 BC as the date of the destruction of Jerusalem wrong and now this one as well.

Although this date is not as critical as 607 BC to the WT doctrines, it still shows how they write their own history as they please. Hey at least they are consistent.

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Is it possible to hijack your publisher card from cong. records?

by watch the tower in

i wonder if anyone has any ideas on how to remove your publisher card from the cong.

secretary?.

i've completely faded but ppl in my former cong.

watch the tower

Thanks for all the replies.

I really dont give a hoot about the congregational aspect of the card being kept. As some of you have said, it's just a card. I could care less what the org. thinks of me.

The reason why this concerns me is the gossip that attaches itself with it on a social level. I would much prefer being in a situation where ppl say, so-and so moved to a different cong and assume that I am still in good standing than having them say so-and so is inactive. You know that this type of gossip floats around. Eventually this will come around to family members living in different locations who think you are active as well. It can get really complicated. I would like to maintain contact on a social level with all the ppl I know without the stigma. I have no problem with them. It's the org that I have a problem with.

I think I'll keep the card as is until they decide to call. That's when I may use some of your suggesstions. Thanks.

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Is it possible to hijack your publisher card from cong. records?

by watch the tower in

i wonder if anyone has any ideas on how to remove your publisher card from the cong.

secretary?.

i've completely faded but ppl in my former cong.

watch the tower

Has anyone tried to fake a letter from a fake cong. secretary requesting the card to be sent there?Can any former or current elders out there tell me if it is normally a formal letter on WT stationary or just any old letter?

AKjeff,

Leaving it as is seems like a good idea as well. Getting rid of the records would be even better.

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Is it possible to hijack your publisher card from cong. records?

by watch the tower in

i wonder if anyone has any ideas on how to remove your publisher card from the cong.

secretary?.

i've completely faded but ppl in my former cong.

watch the tower

I wonder if anyone has any ideas on how to remove your publisher card from the cong. secretary?

I've completely faded but ppl in my former cong. think I am attending a different cong. My publisher card is still with my old cong though. I would like to find a way to retrieve the card so i can tactfully fade into oblivion without the stigma of being labeled as 'inactive'. I'm surprised that the elders haven't called yet about why no one has contacted them yet about moving my card.

Has anyone been succesful in hikacking their pub. card? Does anyone have any good ideas?

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JW acting skills put to the test

by watch the tower in

i've completely stopped taking part in any jw activities for close to a year now and will be visiting my jw family for the next couple of weeks.

they have no idea that i have become "apostate".

for all they know i am still an active jw.

watch the tower

I've completely stopped taking part in any JW activities for close to a year now and will be visiting my JW family for the next couple of weeks. They have no idea that I have become "apostate". For all they know I am still an active JW. Since I am not yet ready to come out of the closet, I will have to act the part and do all the JW stuff while I am there. It'll be tough, I hope I don't have a slip of the tongue and and open up pandora's box. Let's see....

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Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail

by watch the tower in

a huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.

no one really has a conclusive answer to that.

i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.

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That is some incredile digging atlantis. Have you ever thought about becoming a private eye?

So there are a few key names that have emerged from all this:

James McCabe

James McCann (why do these sounds so similar?)

Tony Nelson

John Mazurkiewitz, Melinda Mazurkiewitz

Do these ppl have anything in common?

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Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail

by watch the tower in

a huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.

no one really has a conclusive answer to that.

i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.

watch the tower

Wow. Some fantastic info! Looks like we need to take a closer look at the Mccabe character for sure. You guys are amazing. I'm sure the trail branches off in different directions as well.

bttt

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What do the JW's expect next?

by JH in

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ok, they all are waiting for the new system, that we all know, but in the order of events that should happen soon, what's next?.

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Since today is Friday, they would be expecting to go out in service tomorrow and count time at Starbucks.